Why I’m Grieving Election Day

I am sad today.  I’m not sad that President Obama was elected to a second term.  I wouldn’t have been sad if Mitt Romney had been elected either.  My high school civics class instilled too much confidence in checks and balances to get all worked up about who is sitting in the oval office.  And besides, Congress will, no doubt, continue to be totally dysfunctional for the foreseeable future.  No, I’m grieving Election Day for a different reason.

I doubt I’m the only one who has run across people, in person and on social media, who have had their faith rocked by last night’s Presidential election results.  As I stood in line to vote yesterday, I heard more than one person put this election in terms of spiritual warfare, and “if only Christians got out to vote,” the right man would be in office come January 20, 2013.  This morning, as I sat among 15 mothers and grandmothers, many conservative Christian homeschoolers, at library storytime, it felt like a wake, or at least the day after GOE results came in the mail.  Eyes were downcast.  Conversations were hushed.  Expressions were sullen.  One person told me, “I’m just so disappointed in yesterday’s election.  I mean, I just don’t know.  I prayed.  I prayed for our country, and he still won.”  Based on the feedback I’m seeing on Facebook and Twitter, there are plenty of people who would have been saying the same thing had a few swing states swung the other way.

I’m sad that this is what American Christianity has come to.  I am deeply grieved that the collective faith of the almost 250,000,000 Christians in the US (according to Pew Research) has become so intimately tied up with the empire.  (Obviously not every Christian feels this way, but c’mon, it’s the day after Election Day, broad brushes are encouraged)

The problem, it seems to me, is two-fold.  First, American Christians have, by and large, lost a sense of what it means to pray.  If you prayed for our country, and your candidate did not win, does that mean that God didn’t answer your prayer?  Or did he just not answer it the way you wanted him to?  I believe that prayer is, as I said a few weeks ago, “a consciousness of God’s presence, love, direction, and grace.”  It isn’t about winners or losers, it is about listening, discerning, experiencing, and loving.  If you prayed for God to help you decide who to vote for and you voted for Mitt Romney, good for you.  If you prayed for God to help you decide who to vote for and you voted for Barack Obama, good for you.  Odds are, you probably both heard the will of God for you in your life.

Which leads me to my second point, the American Church has been so tied up in the modernist obsession with truth that it has lost its ability to teach people how to follow Jesus.  At some point, beginning in the early 1920s, the American Church’s fundamentalist wing shifted the conversation in American Christianity from “being a Christian” to “being a believer,” and forever altered the landscape of politics and religion in America.  The end result, as we saw again in this year’s election, is that for many Christians, liberal and conservative alike, there is only one way of being a Christian: subscribing to a list of beliefs that are required for entrance into heaven.  If both sides believe that they have the inside track on God’s truth, then we have no choice but to cast the others into outer darkness.

Instead, what the Church should be modeling is a way of living the Gospel that leaves room for the work of the Spirit.  If the Church is teaching people how to live into the Kingdom of God, then we have to be comfortable with the notion that smart and faithful Christians will read the Bible and find in it different priorities, different meanings, different ways of being disciples.  We have to be OK with that.

This is a blog about the Bible, and as an Episcopalian, I’m a firm believer in the three-legged stool of Scripture, Tradition, and Reason.  I suppose at this point I’ve appealed to Tradition and Reason, so now I will appeal to Scripture.  In the Second Track of the Revised Common Lectionary, the Psalm appointed for this Sunday, is #146, which opens with these verses:

Hallelujah! Praise the LORD, O my soul! *
I will praise the LORD as long as I live; I will sing praises to my God while I have my being.

2 Put not your trust in rulers, nor in any child of earth, *
for there is no help in them.

3 When they breathe their last, they return to earth, *
and in that day their thoughts perish.

4 Happy are they who have the God of Jacob for their help!*
whose hope is in the LORD their God;

5 Who made heaven and earth, the seas, and all that is in them; *
who keeps his promise for ever;

6 Who gives justice to those who are oppressed, *
and food to those who hunger.

As disciples of the Lord Jesus, we should take our place in the life of the country and exercise our right to vote, but our trust should not be placed in election results, candidate speeches, or political platforms.  Our trust is in the Lord who made all that is, seen and unseen.  Our trust is that God is bigger than politics, and for that we should offer him thanks and praise.  Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, a Libertarian or an Independent,  be happy this day that you have the God of Jacob for your help, place your trust in Him, and seek after his kingdom, his desires, his will.  I promise, you won’t be disappointed, no matter the results.

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141 thoughts on “Why I’m Grieving Election Day

  1. I am also sad at how being one in the body of Jesus Christ has been reduced by many to being a part of the “United Christian Clubs of America”. As a Christian, I am not called to represent a tribe, but rather to love without limits, to act as Christ alive on earth to those I share the earth with, and to render unto Caesar when and where required. I’m afraid that the unholy alliance between Church and State is idolatry at its most seductive.

    • new to this… On the day in question I read a facebook entry from someone I did not know placed on my second cousin’s face page.
      : “God must have been sitting this one out.”
      I was shocked by what seemed an indication of her relationship/lack of with Him. I addressed her about prayer as being a response to God: listening, thinking, discerning and showing His love to the world. and what she saw as a hardship may not be accurate. …now that I reflect upon her comment…we all have an issue with Pride.

  2. My feeling of national pride over the ability of the USA to have an orderly, peaceful election is dimmed by the sadness that Steve describes. And my despondency was deepened when I read an article in this AM’s paper. It seems the Catholic Bishop of Peoria IL felt moved by our Lord to order all of his priests to read a letter that criticized the Democratic Party polices, and warned that Catholics who voted that way would endanger their eternal salvation. With all due reverence to my brother the Bishop, that’s not the way the Lord whom I love and serve works in my fath.

      • Linda, I respectfully don’t appreciate your “typical Catholic viewpoint” comment. This comment employs dangerous levels of generalization upon a people who are as diverse as any other group worldwide. I am Catholic, yet I do not agree with the Bishop’s claim that a Democratic vote alone endangers the voter’s salvation. Like Wayne, this letter saddens me. I’d like for you to remember that while there are surely thousands of Catholics who agree with the Bishop, there are also thousands who disagree. Just like any group/belief/creed/club/religion/party/nationality in this world, the Catholic Church is overflowing with a variety of people. We may share a name and core values, but we are not mindless clones.

      • In response to Holly, the bishop’s response is indeed quite typical of the Catholic Church’s viewpoint. The Catholic Church as an establishment. What doesn’t make sense to me is why someone would continue to be a willing member of this establishment and pour money into it when one becomes offended at being associated with it. Direct your resentment toward the leaders of the Church, not toward those who give an honest commentary on the topic. I understand that Catholics are unique individuals, but if you continue to funnel money into the collection basket each week, you are contributing to the power of the leaders. Sadly, we have seen entirely too much political bullying from this religious institution. Trying to distance yourself from their stance doesn’t change your contribution to it.

      • Erma….not a very Christian response, instead one of ignorance and bitterness. You obviously know/ understand nothing about Catholicism yet feel justified in degrading it. I will pray for you!

        I found this main post thoughtful and inspiring…thank you for sharing!

      • In response to Erma: I ask you to step outside your bitterness and hatred for the Church and look at things with an open mind.

        Worldwide, there is no religion/group whose entire body of congregants agree 100% with every statement made by officials/leaders. This is the nature of humanity and the beauty of religious houses; this is where the faithful come together to discuss (and to debate) their beliefs.

        This Bishop made a statement with which I do not agree. And yes, his viewpoint is shared by a good number of Catholic leaders. However, for you to suggest I withdraw all support for my local parish simply because I disagree with this statement shows a heartbreaking level of narrowmindedness. It is an unrealistic, all-or-nothing sort of stance. If I were to withdraw my support from all individuals/groups with whom I ever disagreed, I would be a lonely person indeed.

        As for “political bullying”, that statement cuts both ways. You may be offended by this Bishop’s view on the Democratic party, but you must remember how many Catholics have been offended by individuals, like yourself, who take single statements and use them to stereotype our faith.

        As a country, we agreed decades ago that it is wrong to stereotype an entire group of people based on the words or actions of a few. Keep in mind that the inflammatory comments (like this Bishops’) gain the most attention. What you are choosing not to see or hear are the countless examples of open, loving and accepting Catholics who practice their faith all around you. You do not see us because, in your bitterness, you have declared we do not exist.

  3. I am dumbfounded that you people believe in religion. I for one don’t think it’s sane to talk to an invisible man and assume this man loves me and is my friend lol. I can’t wait until alien disclosure shuts up religion once and for all.

    • The most beautiful things in life, including thought and emotions, are invisible. Do you believe in both? God is the same, he is there and you feel his presence, and once you do, you will be changed for the better forever. You will never be alone again.
      Christians, especially me, are not perfect. Believe me, I have shown my faults this week, and I am certain I will show them every day until I die.

  4. Shared this passage last Sunday evening, before the election. Several commented…lots of curious looks during the study…If this ‘evolution’ of our thinking from being Christian…to being a “believer” has been working it’s way into our culture since the 1920’s it may take a while for a return to following as opposed to believing as the touchstone.

  5. Yes, indeed, the identification of “the true church” with the USA or with one party in the USA, or with one faction of one party in the USA and the utter vilification of the “other” is quite strange, and quite painful. If I am not sad today, it is because with the election over at least some of the vilification of the other will die down. What we as followers of Jesus need to model is the belief that Jesus is still Lord, we are still secure in his love and providence, and that we live out his rule – and that no election (or revolution or . . .) in any country can change any of that. – Peter Davids, Professor, Houston Baptist University, priest serving in the Episcopal Diocese of Texas.

  6. Bill Buckle
    Steve. You have just said what I have felt like when talking to both people that supported the winner and people who supported the loser. I became quite concerned that some people feel that God turned His back on the country and them with this outcome.

  7. I have to admit that it’s been a rough 24 hours…the LORD has spoken in granting our president a second term; His will is done. His purpose in giving our president four more years remains to be seen, but the One in whom I trust has clearly spoken to me to continue to look to Him for all my needs, to believe His promises are sure, and most importantly, to fulfill my part in being His disciple – deny myself, take up my cross, and follow Him!

    • I trust the Lord and he is good all of the time. I know that not all things are of his will, but things that he allows to happen. Maybe it was his will or maybe he allowed Obama to win. We are not puppets and we get to make choices of how to live our lives each day. Regardless of the choices that we make, he can take each circumstance and turn it into a blessing. His will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

  8. I agree with what you are saying but when I have expressed sadness over the election today I was treated like I had three heads for voting for Romney. I am more conservative than our president and I don’t agree with some of his policies but I will still support him. I voted my convictions and that’s what I was supposed to do but the intolerance of my fellow “Christians” towards my vote was even sadder. God is in control so I can rejoice in that.

  9. I really appreciate your comments. My facebook post today was:” The election is over. Some are happy and some are not. It is time to take the boxing gloves off and get to work building up our country. I pray we can be a tolerant and united nation.” Thank you for your great comments.
    A fellow Episcopalian.

  10. I am always bothered by 3 legged stool analogies. If one sits on the three legs, it hurts! You need a seat. In this case, it is Community.

    • Personally, I like the “Big Wheel” analogy better. Picture of Big Wheel tricycle. The two rear wheels represent “reason” and “tradition”. The large front wheel is “scripture”, which is what should be driving our reason and tradition.

      • Sorry Steve, but you lost me at your inference to my prayers not being answered the way I wanted.BHO is not who he represents himself to be.The evidence is overwhelming.While I respect your position,you are swimming in a sea of denial that will prove to be very treacherous.If one believes in the Lord,they most assuredly believe in Satan.I do have faith that we will survive,but Phase II will make the last 4 yrs look like child’s play. My grief for my children and theirs in very real.My grandchildren have done NOTHING to warrant the oppressive debt that will be inflicted.I am appalled by the nonchalance and elitist arrogance of those that condone the travesty of these actions.

      • @pyc10: after reading your reply to Steve, it’s clear that you epitomize the very dynamic which he describes, or, at least, 1 of the dynamics. To live and follow Jesus and not just claim to be a believer of him is the point. In following Jesus and mimicking things he said and did, I don’t recall him getting worked up about politics or taxes. “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s” is about all I remember that was even remotely close to touching on politics. If anything, Jesus was all about humility and anti-politics, being King of a different unseen world, not about worldly power whatsoever. So, if we were to follow in Jesus’ footsteps, would we believe the words of FOX news or MSN news talking heads and start getting worked up to the extent that we grieve openly about who is in charge of Rome, England, or the USA? Honestly, I think that Jesus rather ignored politics and was a-political. In fact, his seemingly flippant attitude about paying taxes (“give to Caesar’s what is Caesar’s”) points to the fact that we are not to focus on worldly things. Also, the disciples falsely believed that Jesus would be a worldly king. Jesus spoke harshly to them about that (“Satan, behind me!”). To combine church and state would have been anti-Jesus, therefore. So, if we are to follow Jesus and be like Jesus, we should love and respect and really not look to politics to fix the world nor be so focused on it that we can’t see God clearly because we’re bitter and angry.

  11. Steve, I think you hit the nail right on top of the head. The point is, God has his plan and we don’t know what it is, but he does and we should have enough faith in him to allow him to unfold that plan the way he sees fit. I my self may not be happy with the way the election turned out but I have faith that it turned out that way because that is what the Lord wanted and I am patiently waiting to see how it all works out. God is Great, God is Good and if you put your faith in him, he will take care of you.
    Thank you for the wonderful commentary and God Bless!

  12. I’m sad that a President has turned his back on the genocide that’s occurring in this country. Abortion and Christianity don’t mix. You can’t believe in both!

      • Unborn children aren’t to be equated with those who wind up with a death sentence. Also, Benghazi was ignored, too.

    • There are many who can’t agree if a few cells have a soul … or if, perhaps, a soul enters later. Some in the USA don’t even believe in souls. There’s a lot of issues here that make the topic messy. IF this was such a clear-cut issue, as in murder of a human who is already born or is capable of breathing on his/her own outside of the womb, I think we would all be able to agree on what to do regarding the law.

      What is truly sad is that the Republican politicians keep using this fake ‘card’ about being able to do anything about Roe vs. Wade and they are believed. Bush Jr used this card and so did Romney. Romney had previously said that he supported a woman’s right to choose. Because of checks-and-balances, we do not have a dictatorship and therefore it’s really not up to the President anyway.

      If you think abortion is wrong, then be sure to be available to women for free counseling in adoption centers. Donate your time and money to those institutions.

      Most women do not take the concept of abortion lightly. It’s not some sort of flippant decision for most women. So, I can say that I respect women enough to allow them to make the decision about their own body and use their own conscience.

      On the flip side, if laws are passed to control what women do below the belt, then why don’t any exist for the men? Why not require mandatory, but reversible, vasectomies for all males over age 13 to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place? It seems quite unfair to want to control what a woman does with her body and not what the man does with his when, in fact, he is equally responsible for the outcome and, often enough, the one who instigates the entire transaction after having obsessed about it for days on end.

      I realize that I have continued to keep your can of worms open with my reply, but was attempting to respectfully give you some ‘food for thought’, a healthy debate if you may.

      • For me, I don’t equate vasectomies to be the same as abortions. I don’t think I’ll ever consider abortion to be a viable form of birth control. I think every human being, male or female, should have the right to make decisions for their own body. But when a women treats abortion as a right over her own body in regards to her health and well-being, she’s ignoring the right of someone else’s health and well-being, namely the baby. Vas deferens and fallopian tubes are part of organs. By all means, snip away. But, to me, a baby – a human life – will never be equated to organs that can be cast away. Any woman has a right to make decisions concerning their health. But so does the human life inside her.

    • Yes, I can–and I do. Abortion isn’t really something to “believe” in. No one loves abortion. The point is that it is sometimes a sad necessity. Jesus didn’t go around preaching against abortion–and yes it was around back then. He told us to love, to forgive, to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit those in prison. I wish fundamentalists and evangelicals would spend more time reading what Jesus is thought to have said and less time on all the theology that got made up about him later. I mean no offense. I just won’t accept anymore that another human can decide for me whether or not I am a Christian.

  13. Helpful thoughts, but still too “American” for me. I believe in God the Father almighty…no nation can contain, define, surround, or claim this wandering the uniaffiliation and
    God’s rule of all that is and was and will be. Americans refuse to humble to a King. Me too. Jesus called it “the kingdom of God” because he knew it was a kingdom and not any other type of government. AMERICANS resist anything opposing liberty, regardless of denominational affiliation.

  14. I agree that our Faith must carry us through all things as Christians. However I am sad that the party of the President elect clearly voted in their convention to remove God…although the presiding official ignored the vote for obvious political reasons. I am also sad that we continue to murder the unborn and I believe Jesus said something like suffer the little children to come unto me and something about a millstone being placed around the neck of those who harm them. Nice try, but I am sad for what we have become as a nation and for the watered down version of Christianity preached today. Our hope must be in the cross alone; not in a nation, party or candidate. However scripture has plenty of examples of God punishing the hard heartedness and unbelief of His people and of nations and tribes. We have good reason to be sad if not just for the results of the election. If we are God’s people and are called by His name we must humble ourselves and return to Him! Amen!

  15. God always answers prayers, sometimes the answer is no. This is not to say that God doesn’t care for us and our well being. We can only see the next step It’s just like a puzzle, you can only put in one piece at a time. When it’s done you see the full picture. God already sees the entire picture and knows the best plan to the end. God is the author and perfector of our faith and existence and He is still in complete control.

  16. Our pastor preached that our president was “a sign of the end times”. Ultimately I left the church (after 11 years) because they could not see how a Democrat could be a Christian. These things did not matter until we got a new pastor who was also a Teapartier. I think that Christians have got to understand that we love despite differences. We love. The picture in my mind is Jesus healing the soldier’s ear… Can we, as a collective group heal our country? I think we could if only we would quit being bitter because things did not go our way.

  17. “If the Church is teaching people how to live into the Kingdom of God, then we have to be comfortable with the notion that smart and faithful Christians will read the Bible and find in it different priorities, different meanings, different ways of being disciples.”…
    I know you meant well by making this statement, however it is this kind of thinking that caused this cradle Episcopalian of 55 years to leave the church. Who are we to judge anyone’s faith and spiritual gifting based on intellect?
    The Bible has many examples of God using people for His glory, including that fear-instilling fundamental word, prophecy, and did not use intellect as a necessary quality. 1 Cor 16:14
    I am sad that this nation is on an arrogant course that has veered greatly from the path of the Episcopalians of our early nation’s history. They were men and women of prayer and we would do well to revisit that part of American history.

    • “If the Church is teaching people how to live into the Kingdom of God, then we have to be comfortable with the notion that smart and faithful Christians will read the Bible and find in it different priorities, different meanings, different ways of being disciples.”…

      M(r)s. Wallace, I fail to see how this statement is judging anyone’s faith or spirituality based on intellect, it seems rather to refuse to do so–in saying that “smart and faithful Christians” will read the Bible in different ways is says that none of those ways are inherently stupid or faithless, nor is any inherently smarter or more faithful than another. Far from being a statement of arrogance, it strikes me as one of humility–an acknowledgement from the author that his view is not privileged.

  18. What a nice sentiment. It is rational, even-tempered, and thoughtful. And based on some of the comments that follow, it’s why I could no longer associate myself with the American version of Christianity which seems to be more akin to rooting for your favorite football team than anything really spiritual. I am an agnostic now, someone who does not think we can know for sure that god exists or not but I lean atheist because since I’ve left the church God certainly hasn’t gotten off his throne and moved through his followers to get me back into the fold. I will continue to vote against what American Christians believe because it’s clear that they have no real interest in listening to anything or anyone but the Christ that lives in their own head and agrees with all of their opinions. I refuse to elect a leader that makes and breaks policy based on the same whims.

  19. Thank you for this. I am so very tired of the pots and kettles doing battle, and I am especially tired of myself and my own despair, which has taken me away from faith and trust in God. I used to marinate in politics, but I just can’t do it any more. More importantly, I don’t believe God would have me do it any more. I will remain informed enough to vote responsibly. Beyond that, I am over it. This world cannot save me. How did I forget that?

    • Couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve spent too much time focusing on politics and who’s right and who’s wrong. I’m going to now spend that time in stewardship. I will do the things I had hoped our leaders would do. I will love my wife more, hug my daughters longer, and serve others. Maybe the results of this election will remind us that there is only one Leader to put our “hope” in.

      • Politics can be a great distraction from all that is truely important. It sounds like you have choosen the right path. Perhaps you should also consider sharing your love with your community and working to ease the burdens of people who cannot help themselves. I believe we should share our beliefs with others, when an opportunity presents itself, but also it is not our job to make an arguement to convince them, only GOD can Grant faith in himself. Our part is to show love following the 2 great commandments Jesus gave us: To love GOD and each other which encompasses the whole of the scriptures.
        This past election was not about electing a man but a set of policies that we hope will be the most helpful to us all, Christian and non-Christian alike. I supported niether man but I suppoted the majority of policies being followed by Pres. Obama. I did not agree with unlimited abortion, but I do believe in some cases in may be necesary. In those cases it must be between GOD and the Family involved. I don’t believe we have the right to demand a particular action from the family involved. It is difficult to know if our current economics polices will result in the increased jobs and standard of living we would all like to see, however the prior economic approach under Pres Bush have proven that they definitely don’t work. Also Pres Obama’s policies are kinder to the elderly and poor. They are also better for any young person who wishes to get an education. I do trust GOD helps direct our leaders even when they fail to recognize that guidance comes from god.

  20. Steve, thanks for expressing much of the way I feel. To those who have commented: I would add that having faith is excellent; it is primal. Praying is very important to faith, so continue to pray! But because Christ has done all that is required for your salvation, you are therfore free to act! It may very well be that God wants to use YOU to make a difference to others during these next four years! It is not simply the task of the President to accomplish these things. Keep God as your focus and work for the change to which you feel called.

  21. Steve–my appreciation not only for your words but for the humility with which they are offered. My persistent frustration is with those–and they are of all political stripes–whose certainty eliminates the possibility for dialog, compromise or solutions. And I continue to seek for–pray for–a means to get through that certainty (even when it sometimes means confessing and repenting of my own).

  22. Religion has always been “intimately tied up with the empire” It provides the means to control large blocks of any population.

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  24. totally on board with the empire critique. do note that there’s an “unexamined privilege red flag” for me in the dismissal of the very real threat a Romney administration held for LGBT families and women … but overall a good piece. thanks for sharing.

  25. As a person born into Christianity, and now living as a Buddhist, with deep respect for Episcopalian theology, liturgy, and practice, I am deeply moved….and hopeful for humanity after reading this. Thank you…..Just thank you.

  26. If anyone is in command it is only because our heavenly Father allows it. I think one day of grieving is not too much to ask for what seems to be a blatant response of the majority of Americans turning their back on the one true God. The same God that this country was founded on. It IS sad. I mourned because so many people may as well have spit in my Fathers face. He IS still in control.

    • I think I understand your grief–I felt similarly after the 2004 election, when Bush was reelected despite having involved the country in so much disastrous public policy. That day, even the sunlight felt dark to me. So I actually do sympathize with you, though I am not of your political beliefs. But please explain exactly what causes you to grieve here. I grieved in 2004 because Bush had begun an unjustified war on a sovereign nation which killed tens of thousands of people, used up untold billions of dollars, and cemented us forever in the hearts of many Muslims as godless warmongers. What has Obama done that is remotely equivalent to that record of unrighteousness? In voting for him, what did this Democratic churchgoer do to turn my back on the one true God?

      • I feel as though you didn’t actually read this post. The premise being that my grief isn’t over a candidate, but Christianity’s tie to the empire and both sides assertion that God is on their side.

      • Steve, I should have specified in my above comment that I was responding to Leesa’s post above it, and not yours–all of my questions were directed to her. I did indeed understand your concerns and thought they were very well expressed, and I agree with them. It makes me sad, too, that the one thing that should link us and help us transcend our differences should instead become tethered to our worldly concerns and opinions. But I always am hopeful that just around the corner, there will be less heat and more light.

        Whenever you have time I would be interested in hearing you expand on what happened in the 1920s, when the conversation started to emphasize being a believer instead of being a Christian. What do you think prompted the change, and who was involved in advancing this new understanding of what religion asks of us?

    • One’s individual reaction to all of this, imho, is what Jesus Christ sees clearly in one’s heart. So, for example, if you idolize politics and/or your candidate-of-choice so much that you begin to become bitter and hateful towards anyone who doesn’t agree with your choice, then you are probably not having a loving reaction to the situation. Consider that you simply have not been able to understand why another Christian would feel that [candidate]’s ideals were more in-line with Christian ideals. Perhaps there is something to learn in listening to our brothers and sisters instead of assuming they are evil or mean or have chosen to spit in God’s face.

      This whole topic makes me think of how Freud and Einstein were asked to come up with a way to prevent WWIII. Freud was an atheist. He claimed that aggression lived in all humans and the best we could do was channel it towards something like national sports. Einstein, from most reports, believed in God (and perhaps was Jewish). In one of his replies to Freud, Einstein wondered if some sort of world organization comprised of the smartest scientists and smartest individuals, NOT politicians (he made that clear) , with representation from each country, could meet every so often to make decisions together (this was the brainstorm that led to the start of the U.N.). Freud pessimistically replied that such an organization would eventually become corrupt, i.e. not a fail-safe against WWIII. Einstein agreed that it would become corrupt, but not right away, and that it was still worth trying because of that. (I am severely paraphrasing their letters to each other)

      My first point in sharing that story is that a belief in God often seems to be coupled with a spirit of optimism and hope in something better even if ill-placed on earthly outcomes. Atheists often seem to be less hopeful about human beings and, rightly so, because of how much we religious types, historically, have screwed things up when we think we aren’t all on the same page (as if God created a bunch of robotic clones of identical size, shape, thought, and belief, and woe to those who don’t share my exact viewpoint — as if my viewpoint is exactly what God wants everyone else to believe to the ‘T’.).

      My second point in sharing that story is that I think that Freud had a point. In addition to a “good” side, we all have a built-in aggression in our hearts. The scriptures support this. It’s what leads to “road rage” and a need to vilify those who are different or think differently.

      But, just think of how much better the world would be if Hitler had not had that sort of attitude of vilification. To think of another as less or even as inhuman can lead to a great deal of destruction and sin — as made obvious in Hitler’s time. But, it’s a battle we all fight everyday in smaller ways: to learn to love people as they are. Fortunately, most of us just never take it as far as that madman, Hitler.

      Sadly, Hitler based some of his beliefs about Jews on the writings from St. Augustine — which were based on scriptures. Augustine vilified the Jews for killing Jesus. Many years after Hitler died, the Catholic church leaders, in deference to their Jewish brothers and sisters, decided to prevent such anti-Semitism by chucking out the way they re-enacted the crucifixion on Good Friday. Instead of being by-standers who observed those “bad” Jews, each person in the congregation became one of the baddies and is asked to shout “Crucify him! Crucity him!” such that they understand that we ALL did this and we all STILL do this to Jesus in smaller ways today.

      The idea is that we are especially capable of turning on Jesus and putting Him up on the cross again, spiritually, when we attack and/or vilify our neighbors. How many of us love our neighbors as ourselves as we have been asked to do by Jesus? None of us are exempt from some level of failure on this topic. NONE. We are all guilty. And, it just keeps happening and happening because we just can’t seem to learn to tolerate each other with a loving spirit. We so badly want to point the finger and judge others so as to say “me, me, me, Lord! I’m the special one because I followed you better than anyone else!”. Or, we might point the finger and judge others so as to avoid personal insecurities (poor self-love or poor self-esteem) and also as a way to offload any personal guilt.

      I’ll bet you will have a hard time believing that I actually chose Obama because I felt that his ideals most closely matched those of a loving, accepting God, and I felt that Romney was going to hurt us at many levels. But, after reading this wonderful article, I realize that my focus has been on politics a bit too much lately. Time to scale it back, get it into balance, and put God back at the top of ladder.

  27. Discussions of religion and politics are forbidden subjects in many circles–and now in my own family. I’m bitterly disappointed that my own daughter voted for the plutocrat.. But do these discussions have to be so divisive? While I believe in God and in Jesus and in aspiring to make personal choices with Jesus in mind, I’m all too often ashamed at what Christians do in the name of God. Their “with us or against us” mentality grates at my soul. I grew up all over the world and experienced far more and varied cultures than most Americans. I can see the wisdom and peace of Buddhism and the devotion and dedication of the Moslem religion. While the President was condemned for being a Moslem (which I know he is not), how does that disqualify him for office? Don’t Moslems, Jews and Christians all worship the God of Abraham? We have more in common than those that sell hate on the street-corners like bags of popcorn. Since we’re using a broad brush, aren’t there are those who say they’re devoted to God but seem to think they can buy their own salvation with tithing and donations to make amends for the evil things they do every day at work and at home and in their locker rooms? Are all the rich so focused on their own aggrandizement and lust for power that they have forgotten the less fortunate, less endowed and less able to influence their own path to success? Hardly. But there are too many that have done everything they could to make sure they don’t pay their fair share. They buy legislation to carve out special deals for their enterprises and take advantage of custom laws that let them hide their hordes so the government can’t find them. Is this Christian behavior? Sure it is. After all they’re Christians. This is how Christians behave and thus it must be right. They go to church. They sing in the choir and plop fat envelopes in the donation basket. They might even build a new sanctuary or add a stained-glass window to the church to immortalize their family name for perpetuity. While at the same time, their company buys up other struggling companies, moves the jobs overseas and sells off the assets like a chop shop. Or they buy cheap foreign-made goods so Mrs. Kravits can get a cheaper pair of plastic shoes but fail to pay their workers a living wage or provide healthcare insurance. And they foment war. They encourage hyper-patriotism to promote their war industries to rid the world of the Moslems. Is this what Christianity is about? I didn’t think so. But this is what Christians are doing today in the name of God. This is why I’m ashamed to call myself a Christian.

    • “It’s just the way business is done” is accepted by so many, let’s admit it. You point out the white elephant in the room.

      Jesus talked a LOT about hypocrisy and how careful we would need to be and how we would fail on that one even if we thought we were doing a good job. I think you touch upon that in the latter part of your reply. The thing is that Jesus said that all of us mortals are hypocritical types.

      Think about that! I think it is difficult for all of us to believe that their own heart is corrupt, but we ALL fall short of the glory of God. How many of us strain at a gnat, but swallow a camel whole? Yet, we want to pluck the speck out of another’s eye with that huge log in our own eye.

      I’m glad Jesus has a sense of humor and unconditional love and allows us to start all over again with acceptance and forgiveness.He even accepts us and loves us when we don’t realize that we’re acting righteous. How amazing is that? Oh, if we all could somehow package that and spread it around the world, the world would think we were all on happy pills.

  28. I can’t resist commenting: Abortion is a law of the nation (an act of protecting the frightened from back street butchery), Christianity is a path of living by a faith in Jesus. Christianity is one of the ways people in our nation live out their lives of faith. And each of those “living out their lives in faith” are confronted by wildly varying bumps in life’s road. All together we occupy territory in common , as in cities or states, and (through it all) cooperation and compassion are ways we follow to become community. When faith becomes so arrogant that it teaches adherents to hate other ways it has become more than the word “faith” will allow; i.e. the conviction of things NOT SEEN.

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  30. Two things about this election that drive me further away:
    The continued belief by Republicans that they have a corner on Christianity. If your a Democrat, your not or possibly worse.
    Despite that Obama claims Christianity so many self rightous “Christians” judge him not and continue to call him Muslim and that for so many years the same “Christians” have called Mormomism a cult but now that a Mormon Republican wants to be President, it is no longer a cult.

  31. First time reading, but not my last!

    Not til the loom is silent and the shuttles cease to fly
    Shall God unroll the canvas and reveal the reason why
    The dark threads are as needful in the weavers skillful hand
    As the threads of gold and silver in the pattern he has planned

    Thank you, Steve

  32. As Joyce Meyer puts it, the government was not called to heal the sick, set the captives free, etc. (Luke 4:18), it is my job (which most private institutions manage to do for about 1/3 the price). So the social justice portion of the argument is a mute point to me. As for the morality issues, Jesus put life first in all things, therefore Abortion is an abomination and should not be allowed (having said that I realize it will never be completely outlawed, but really explain the difference between a late term abortion and murdering a premature baby). Given all that I can’t understand how a Christian can vote for a person who is pro-abortion (don’t call it pro-choice because the baby doesn’t get one).
    Also, welfare is in my point a view the new slavery, the government controls what you eat, where you life and how you work, seems to me that is the definition of slavery.

    • I have a few quibbles that I hope that you will respond to. I agree with you that the faithful have the obligation to help the needy–however, leaving the job up to voluntary actions by faith organizations has often left the job undone, as in Dickensian London, much of the rural United States in the pre-New Deal Depression, and countless other examples. The moral justification behind the idea of an activist government ensuring social justice is that we ALL should bear the responsibility for our needy brothers and sisters–the job is too important to leave to philanthropic organizations that may not be well enough funded to adequately respond to the need.

      I myself am glad to pay taxes that are funding programs to help the needy–I suppose that the most compelling reason that I am a Democrat is that I want, very much, to live in a world in which we take care of each other. Having an activist government seems to me to be the best and most equitable way of getting that done. I imagine that government programs are sometimes clumsily administered, but it would astound me if the same thing were not sometimes true of private institutions.

      Regarding abortion, I believe the situation is more complicated than Republicans being against it, and Democrats being for it. I believe that as a whole, Republicans are trying to manipulate the issue for political benefit, so that they can enjoy the loyalty of constituents who are truly opposed to abortion without ever having to actually outlaw it. They talk a lot about abortion, and do a few visible things here and there to reduce access to it, but they don’t want legal abortion to end, on the contrary. It needs to be remembered that a large majority of Americans value access to abortion–the huge numbers of abortions in this country involve people from all across the political spectrum. Republicans will never risk alienating this majority over such an emotion-packed issue; it would probably be the end of their viability as a national party.

      So they get to decry abortion, and yet when the chips are down, it suddenly turns out that selected Republican appointees to the Supreme Court have a pro-choice side. It is sort of odd that since 1980, SEVEN of the last eleven justices have been appointed by supposedly anti-abortion Republican presidents, and yet, over 32 years this conservative court has not managed to overturn Roe v. Wade. I know, I know, presidents can’t ensure how a justice will vote, but you can’t tell me that with so much at stake, a few winks aren’t enough to let a president know that the potential justice he is considering will vote a certain way. The Republican party does not want to be the party which ends legal abortions in this country, no matter what their rhetoric is.

      You may disagree with the Democratic stand on abortion, but at least they mean what they say. And their stance also recognizes the terrible situation a woman is in when confronting an unwanted pregnancy. In that sense, their approach is just as moral as the anti-abortion side, and they recognize that the quality of life a child enjoys is profoundly linked to the capacity of the mother to provide love and care. The adoption option often is not a good choice, and the sad truth is that sometimes a terminated pregnancy is the best outcome for all. Romney used to be of this opinion as well, but since then has changed his mind so often that it is difficult to see where he truly stands on the issue.

  33. I especially appreciate the emphasis on the purpose of prayer — to get what we want, or to spend time in God’s presence? My experience tells me that prayer is indeed transformative if I allow it, and what is most transformed is me.

  34. Steve, I read your blog early yesterday and (like so many others) thought it was wonderful, but I didn’t go back to look at the comments until I read today’s post. I’m stunned, but I think it shows you’re doing God’s work in a wonderful way.

  35. From Wikipedia:
    Martin Luther’s book, On Secular Authority, was an ardent expression of the principle of Liberty of Conscience. “Liberty of conscience” is the principle that forbids human authorities from coercing people’s spiritual beliefs. In this book, Luther insisted that God requires voluntary religious beliefs. Compelled or coerced faith is insincere and must never be allowed. Luther insisted that “liberty of conscience” was one of Jesus Christ’s principles. According to Luther, the civil government’s role is simply to keep outward peace in society. The civil government has no business enforcing spiritual laws. “The laws of worldly government extend no farther than to life and property and what is external upon earth,” Luther insisted. Echoing Luther, writing on religious liberty, Thomas Jefferson stated “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.” Jefferson may not have had Luther specifically in mind, but was perhaps an heir to the Protestant tradition which gave birth to this sentiment. Addressing the question of whether the state should permit its citizens to believe religious views which are heterodox, Luther said, “heresy can never be prevented by force…heresy is a spiritual matter which no iron can strike, no fire burn, no water drown.” In other words, it is folly to legislate and enforce religious beliefs.

  36. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I am one of those Romney people, and have been upset to say the least. This post comes at just the right time. I am a very hard-headed person, and I am passionate about my beliefs. I pray every day for strength to deal with those with believe differently
    I am thankful that I have a Savior that died so that I could be forgiven.

  37. I see no reason for grieving – the election is over and now each of us must set our individual plans to include the new situation and figure out how to help each other and the country within that framework.
    If you have suggestions – let your legislator know – many do seem do seem to be short on ideas.
    But there is much to be thankful for in this election
    The campaign was vicious, using many old tacial and social stereotypes, encouraging devisiveness – the younger voters appear to have either not understood the refernces or ignore them – this is good
    If there is a discussion on abortion, there are now 20 women in the senate to join in the discussion – and so it goes
    God made us with free will – so if your candidate did not win – you need to work to do God’s work in what you might see as adverse conditions
    If your candidate did win – you need to help him succeed
    Stop moaning and analysing and get out and do
    ” God loves a cheerful giver, give it all you’ve got”

  38. Thank you so much for expressing these thoughts for they are very similar to what I expressed in a FB posting. I did not vote for President Obama but our Lord teaches us to respect and pray for those in authority. He taught respect and obedience to Rome when He walked here on earth and to pay our taxes and to be a good citizen. We are studying 1 Peter in SS and this was a point made by Peter – respect for those in authority over us. You stated all of this wonderfully and I thank you. Now, we should pray for our leaders, roll up our sleeves and help them to do what is best for our country. We are blessed to live in the best country in the world and this is a statement made after visiting several others. Jesus looked over Jerusalem and wept over what He saw but then then He died for them and us. After we grieve, we should be willing to give our all for our country.

  39. It is amazing how this post has taken off… I am a Christian and was raised in a Republican, Episcopal family. Pat Buchanan’s mean spirited speech to the ’88 convention showed me that I was not welcome in the Republican Party. It felt a bit heretical at first to support Democrats but I am now very grateful to be a Democrat. I

    I live in SC and the diocese here is no longer part of the Episcopal Church. The Docese of SC is sure it is right and the national church is wrong. Surely there is a way to have principled positions without demonizing those who hold different positions… Or is that possible?

    I believe that God is big enough to love us all and that God may be larger than my ability to understand everything that happens.

  40. President Obama showed that he has a heart and compassion for people. The biggest problem is that people have to start accepting the fact that Obama is the right person for the job.

  41. I think its fair to say we are grieiving for our children , the debt they will be faced with, maybe a nuclear Iran, partial birth abortions and a presidient who has a record of being outwardly hostile toward the Catholic Church, who actualy lies to the Cardinal , anything else ??? but the voters have spoken and perhaps the Lord hasa greater plan for the Americans to finally realize what they have done!

  42. Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and Give unto God the things that are God’s.

    I can see why one would be so sad. I’m sad, but also relieved and hopeful. I’m sad that America had to go through such a dark period of history. I’m sad that so many Americans fell victim to so many lies and distortions. I’m relieved and hopeful that all this has come to an end and maybe, just maybe, we can at last, come to our senses and be the Christians that we are supposed to be.

  43. God never told anybody to support Barack Obama. If you voted for him, you should examine your salvation, chances are you’re not saved. God gives us truth and wisdom if we will ask. Some things are hard to figure out, but knowing Obama is evil and doing everything you can to stop him, that’s easy.

    • Lee, forget the admonition Judge not lest ye be judged. You do not like Obama’s policies, that does not make him evil. A prevaricator is more the definition of evil, that would be Mr. Romney proven over and over to have lied.
      You judge those who voted for the president and judge them to not be “saved”. It is your own conscience and understanding of the gospel that needs to be examined.
      This is the UNITED states. We used to be known for coming together after an election, no matter how contentious.

      • The singular reason our very soon to be Dictator in chief was elected was bus loads of illiterates with only one objective, the next check.God sent us a boat,not enough got in;therefore the United States of America has forever more lost it’s once lofty status as the most dominant nation in the history of mankind.The overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand that Obama’s first term was dedicated to putting in place executive power to enable him and the administration to fulfill the campaign promise of “transforming America ” in his second term regardless of which political party controls Congress. Thats why his re-election team virtually ignored the plight of incumbent or
        prospective Democratic Party office holders.

        The most significant accomplishment of Obama’s first term is to make
        Congress irrelevant. Under the myopic and blindly loyal leadership of Harry
        Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats have succeeded in creating an imperial and, in a second term, a potential dictatorial presidency.

        During the first two years of the Obama administration when the Democrats
        overwhelming controlled both Houses of Congress and the media was in an
        Obama worshiping stupor, a myriad of laws were passed and actions taken
        which transferred virtually unlimited power to the executive branch.

        The birth of mufti-thousand page laws was not an aberration. This tactic was
        adopted so the bureaucracy controlled by Obama appointees would have sole discretion in interpreting vaguely written laws and enforcing thousands of pages of regulations they and not Congress would subsequently write.

        For example, in the 2,700 pages of ObamaCare there are more than 2,500
        references to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There are more
        than 700 instances when he or she is instructed that they “shall” do
        something and more than 200 times when they “may” take at their sole
        discretion some form of regulatory action. On 139 occasions, the law
        mentions that the “Secretary determines.” In essence one person, appointed by and reporting to the president, will be in charge of the health care of310 million Americans once ObamaCare is fully operational in 2014.

        The same is true in the 2,319 pages of the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act which confers nearly unlimited power on various agencies to control by fiat the nation’s financial, banking and investment sectors. The bill also
        creates new agencies, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, not subject to any oversight by Congress. This overall process was repeated numerous times with other legislation all with the intent of granting
        unfettered power to the executive branch controlled Barack Obama and his
        radical associates.

        Additionally, the Obama administration has, through its unilaterally
        determined rule making and regulatory powers, created laws out of whole
        cloth. The Environmental Protection Agency on a near daily basis issues new regulations clearly out of their purview in order to modify and change
        environmental laws previously passed and to impose a radical green agenda never approved by Congress. The same is true of the Energy and Interior Departments among many others.

        None of these extra-constitutional actions have been challenged by Congress.The left in America knows this usurpation of power is nearly impossible to reverse unless stopped in its early stages.

        It is clearly the mindset of this administration and its appointees that
        Congress is merely a nuisance and can be ignored after they were able to
        take full advantage of the useful idiots in the Democrat controlled House
        and Senate in 2009-2010 and the Democrat Senate in the current Congress.

        Additionally, Barack Obama knows after his re-election a Republican
        controlled House and Senate will not be able to enact any legislation to
        roll back the power previously granted to the Executive Branch or usurped by them. His veto will not be overridden as there will always be at least 145
        Democratic members of the House or 34 in the Senate in agreement with or
        intimidated by an administration more than willing to use Chicago style
        political tactics.

        The stalemate between the Executive and Legislative Branches will inure to
        the benefit of Barack Obama and his fellow leftists.

        The most significant power Congress has is the control of the purse-strings
        as all spending must be approved by them. However, once re-elected, Barack Obama, as confirmed by his willingness to do or say anything and his unscrupulous re-election tactics, will not only threaten government
        shutdowns but would deliberately withhold payments to those dependent on
        government support as a means of intimidating and forcing a Republican
        controlled Congress to surrender to his demands, thus neutering their
        ability to control the administration through spending constraints.

        Further, this administration has shown contempt for the courts by ignoring
        various court orders, e.g. the Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium, as
        well as stonewalling subpoenas and requests issued by Congress. The Eric
        Holder Justice Department has become the epitome of corruption as part of
        the most dishonest and deceitful administration in American history. In a
        second term the arrogance of Barack Obama and his minions will become more blatant as he will not have to be concerned with re-election.

        Who will be there to enforce the rule of law, a Supreme Court ruling or the
        Constitution? No one. Barack Obama and his fellow-travelers will be
        unchallenged as they run roughshod over the American people.

        ALL WE HAVE IS our GOD and maybe thats the point.

      • You have written too much for me to read (I have a visual impairment) however. I can immediately respond to your wrong statement about having a dem controlled congress. He did not. For approximately 7 months he had a majority howrever the repubs had the 60 to mount a filibuster which they did. Then Senator Kennedy became ill and died and a repub took his place.
        You seem to forget, just as one example, Mr. Nixon in regards to decitful dishinest, etc.
        Call it waht you will, I call it hate for the president/dems but instead of coming out and calling it what it is you put it in the context of G-d.

        I, unlike ithers here, never said I “know” the will of G-d, read what I wrote again. If you pray and ask for G-d to decide the direction of the election, which is what people have said, then the results of the election are the answers to your prayers. You want G-d to do what you want G-d to do and if the answet is “No.” then it cannot be G-d.

  44. Lee, the dark period of our history is over. Self righteous people like you who (incorrectly) believe they know the mind of God are outnumbered. You lost. If you are unhappy with this nation and equal treatment of all people, then you should pack your little red wagon and leave! No one is forcing you to stay here.

  45. Funny how they say they prayed for our country “and he still won”. Well if they prayed, if they trust G-d answers their prayers then the reuslts of the election were G-d’s will and they need to accept what G-d wants for the country, which is another 4 years. Theirs is more of a philosophy of G-d’s will be done, unless it clashes with mine.

  46. I say the republicans should give obama everything he wants, –unfettered acesss to free abortions up to birth, higher taxes, more hostility towards small business, more stimulus in companies that go bankrupt, etc after four more years then he will toatally own it and will not be able to blame
    the other side

  47. @MH: Please put the Kool Aid down. Turn off FOX News and Rush Limberger. Now, the president was re-elected on Tuesday. Yes, abortion will continue to be legal all over America. Yes, the wealthy will finally have to pay more taxes because they have more at stake then the average American. Banks and other financial companies will finally be brought under control. Unions will be back and more powerful than ever. Gay marriage will become the law of the land. Women will be treated as equals with men.

    Now, in spite of that, the world has not come to an end, has it? Did the sun come up this morning? Of course it did! Point is, MH, you are filled with ignorance, hatred, and fear and all based on NOTHING! Maybe if you just lived your life and quit judging others, you might just be a happier person.

  48. I was so impressed with this extended line of conversation. For how many dozens (hundreds?) of comments did it remain civil and thoughtful? Amazing–I didn’t think the American people had that much civility and graciousness in them any more. Have any of the rest of you noticed how the intolerance, name-calling, and triviality have crept into the last half dozen or so posts? I guess we can only talk to and with each other for so long…

  49. I only have three questions for all of us, “Are we “one nation under G-d?, Indivisible?, with liberty and justice for all?”

  50. Less than a month ago I had the privilege of hearing Shane Claiborne speak. I am currently reading his book “The Irresistible Revolution: Living as an Ordinary Radical.” I’m certain the reaction to Obama’s victory in his Philadelphia based community “The Simple Way” is strikingly not like that of the reactions you have shared. You may want to consider recommending his work to those whom you find disparaged and downhearted. Grace and peace.

    • I’m actually reading that book right now as well. It will be the topic of conversation at the real-life Draughting Theology from Advent 1 until the beginning of Lent. Though Shane tends to operate outside of politics, al la Hauerwas, I think he’d share my uncomfortableness with the state of the American church today.

  51. Wow Talbert such hatred I have always felt equal to ,men, I own my own business, and did feel depressed after the election, but, I have already picked myself, am grateful for all the blessing in my life and will continue to live by my convictions!!! respect for the gift of life and respect for my fellow man and at the same time no thaving blinders on about the liberal agenda!!!

  52. Lovely blogpost, Steve. And though there is a smattering of the ‘fearfuls’ here, It is good to see the words of Christians who recognize Love as a higher power.

  53. Well, I was very heartbroken over results of the election,Tuesday evening. I prayed that our country would turn from their wicked ways and turn back to Jesus. However, our country decided to continue in their wicked ways. I feel, with this decision, our country will face many, many difficult days. As a believer, in Jesus Christ, I put my whole trust in HIM and know that HE will take care of HIS people. It amazes me that the understanding of being a Christian is so diverse. Either you believe in Jesus Christ and know that HE is your saviour or you don’t. There is absolutely NO in between!!! There is only ONE way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven and that is through Jesus. Please understand that these are NOT my words, but the words of my Heavenly Father who clearly stated the “rules” of life in HIS book called the BIBLE. People can choose to read that book any way they like, but what’s truth is WRITTEN and there is NO way God’s word can be changed!!! So, those of you who voted for Obama, voted against what God’s word says and obviously this means the majority. Although I am very sad, I know that God is in complete control. HE says in HIS book that HE is coming back and that the road to heaven is narrow…….this I believe, but I AM READY!!!!! Are you????? I pray that each of you will open your heart to Jesus and let HIM be the Lord of your life so that you many have eternal life in heaven. God Bless You!

  54. Well I felt sick 4 years ago when Obama was put into office and now i’m sick and discussed even more now that he is going to waste us away to nothing. I knew he was going to put us through hell and now we are over 16 trillion in debt and the next 4 years we will be up to 23 trillion in debt, because all he likes to do is spend money and waste it on things we don’t even know anything about and a lot of it was lost and they don’t even know where it went.

  55. In regards to abortion–how is it that we can save a 23 week gestation baby to thrive and become a beautiful child but we allow a nine month gestation baby to be taken because the mother has mental issues ??? I can’t wrap my brain around that (I work with micro preemies and their families)

    • I do not believe abortions, by stick, by coat hanger, what ever the method were present in NT times – – did Jesus know about them? What did he say?

  56. I’m reasonably certain that Jesus never really touched the topic, however, the early Israelites seemed to consider abortion perfectly acceptable, even mandatory, if there was even just the suspicion of adultery (see Numbers 5:11-31).

  57. Can we all at least agree that partial birth abortions in the last trimester in this day and age should be banned!!!! the president as a senator voted against the ban –

  58. I celebrated the election of Obama because I believe he is a man after God’s own heart and a fine Christian. He reminds me somewhat of Jimmy Carter, another Christian President. Jesus was not a conservative. He tore up the social order supported by the Pharisees and other conservative church leaders who were so wrapped up in made up rules and regulations that they had forgotten how to love God and others,. Jesus believed in equality, freedom and loving and taking care of others, something Obama believes in and Romney does not and especially Ryan does not. I was trying to think of how I could escape America going into a full fledged depression if Romney had won. At least we have a chance now if those satan inspired conservative congressional teapartiers will just get out of the way. Don’t make abortion a central issue. Make taking care of the children who are already here the Pro-life cause. So far, pro-life has stopped at birth. It needs to extend into support for PUBLIC schools, subsidized housing, universal health care, free skill training so no one but high school kids work for minimum wage, and all children having a forever family—including older and minority children.

  59. I don’t agree with you what so ever. Let me get this straight if a christian, a follower of Christ, views this election as a call to action based on their moral values and “Real World” implications then they somehow have gone astray? Am I reading this right? So being a committed Christian is fine just so long as it makes you “look” acceptable and doesn’t stir up any controversy. I think what you need is a better definition of what you want “Christianity” defined as. We have a country now that is 55% self described as not religious (whatever that means), supports and promotes homosexuality, restricts and condemns traditional values and even nationalistic demonstrations of patriotism (lawsuits for flying an American flag, can’t wear red/white/blue in public schools and all sorts of nonsense), rampant with secularism, multicultural to the extent that foreign cultures are suing Americans for practicing christian traditions (every Christmas just read the papers). These are the realities we will all have to live with but we want to condemn those Christians who are saying enough is enough and EVERYTHING has spiritual consequences? Seriously? Why are you a Christian then? Just so you feel good about yourself or because you are living your life following God’s word, even to the scorn of others. Frankly, this article is sad to me. If you are lukewarm…you know the rest of the scritpture.

    • Thank you Al. You’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head. I’ve been astonished by some complacent reactions I’ve seen…BUT its useless to fear anything aside from the one true God. I fear Him because I KNOW him..He IS almighty and by “insane” you mean having a relationship with my heavenly Father (see earlier comment)..then COO COO ca-choo lady.

    • Al, No one ‘promotes’ homosexuality, give a click for the 55 as not religious, and in this country where we have the right tio practice whatever religion and believe in whatever religion, or no religiion without government interference whi would this even matter if it was a true number? No one restricts and condemns traditional values, or demonstrations of patriotism, you can wear white red blue, whatever color you want in schools (unless they are gang colors where wearing say red may get you killed,, foreign cultures are not suing Americans for practicing christian values, etc. Turn off Fox and find out how America really is.
      If youw ant a country that decides we should all practice one religion (and what denomination of that religion would they choose? Maybe youre a Lutheran, would you accept if thenational christian religion was Baptist?) then you know where they do that, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, in that area of the world. Is that what you want a theicracy where the president says you may only this form of dress, say these words, be beheaded if we think you have said something blasphemous?

  60. So many of you are so misinformed. Your values have become so twisted. You let the right wing nut media warp your minds. So much hatred! So much moaning and groaning because the Will of God has been fulfilled! Like it or not, there is NOTHING you can do about that. Accept it and move on.

  61. I enjoyed reading this blog post.I believe ultimately that God is in control and our hope lies with Him. However I believe that this election is a bold indication of what is wrong with the Church today. I still cannot wrap my mind around how the “Church” and I mean the one that believes Jesus died for our sins and that the Bible is the word of God and the final authority supported and voted for a man who supports homosexual marriage, ignores Israel, and bows down to Muslims. Woe to our nation for judgement is upon us!

  62. This is exactly why I believe in and practice The Golden Rule. Period. Who needs organized religion? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

  63. Thanks for your article!

    In scripture we see how our Heavenly Father could use [to accomplish His Own Will] both a pagan Egyptian Pharaoh and a “man after God’s own heart” King David. These two kinds of rulers are like book-ends for the full spectrum of the kinds of rulers that have held positions of national and international power throughout the millenniums.

    Regardless of where in that spectrum either President Obama or Governor Romney might be, God is still God and can accomplish His Own Will through whomever is/was elected.

    We, the Church, have been taught how to partner with God to see His Will achieved on earth. Jesus taught us how to pray in what we now refer to as “The Lord’s Prayer”:

    “… Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven…”

    Let us agree with God [through prayer] that His Will should be done here on earth… regardless of which ruler is in a particular seat of power.

    Scripture also teaches us to pray for those in authority, and no mention is made of praying for the rulers only if they fit a certain criteria.

    Let us pray, pray, pray for our country. In so doing, let us also pray for our rulers. Let us vote as we discern how the Holy Spirit may be leading us to vote.

    Following Election Day let us rejoice, not because of whom was elected or was voted out of office. Instead, let us rejoice in the God Whom we serve and that as His Church prays, His Will is going to be done in our nation and in our lives!

  64. This makes no sense. Teach faith in the church and home. I am not sad that we elected a Christian President who knows we are a nation of diversity that must be accepted, respected and acknowledged. In essence, you are desiring a country of Christians who recognize only their concepts. With that structure, we are no better than a stifling taliban country.

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